tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4232545803038458978.post4247320493754745740..comments2023-12-26T07:51:52.741-08:00Comments on THE CRITICAL THINKER: We Must Stop Making Martyrs Out Of ThugsMarc A. Medleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13891538348892498227noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4232545803038458978.post-73141341899233429422010-07-14T07:40:36.240-07:002010-07-14T07:40:36.240-07:00In every field/occupation, you have the good and t...In every field/occupation, you have the good and the bad. You have good teachers and bad teachers; good cops and bad cops; good judges and bad judges; good cooks and bad cooks; good mechanics and bad mechanics; etc. etc. etc. You get my point. <br /><br />As of August 17th, I will be on the face of the earth for 48 years and have yet to have an encounter with the law beyond a traffic ticket every now and again, and even in these cases I did not have a bad experience. I find that how we approach the officers have a lot to do with how they respond to us. Now as I said, you have bad seeds in every profession, but knowing that, it is incumbent upon each of us to do what we can do to avoid dealing with law enforcement. We do all know that the potential is there to come across a rogue officer, just as again,it is there to come across a rogue teacher, rogue priest, rogue lawyer, rogue judge, etc. etc. <br /><br />After a while just using the racist officer line becomes an excuse for behavior we ought not to have been doing in the first place. Each time I was caught speeding or making a left when the sign said "No left turn;" I was wrong and had to suffer the consequences that goes along with taking the risk of speeding or making the turn. Each time one of us steals a car, or beats up on someone,or "jacks" someone, we are wrong. Does that give a cop the right to kill you? No. Does it place you in harms way? Yes. We MUST stop placing ourselves in harms way with our actions. I don't excuse the police, and I don't excuse our thugs and thugettes either.Marc A. Medleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13891538348892498227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4232545803038458978.post-73810482378203180532010-07-13T09:36:48.157-07:002010-07-13T09:36:48.157-07:00I agree with the fact that we have to stop doing t...I agree with the fact that we have to stop doing things to come in contact with police in negative ways, however don't think that your behavior is the only factor in dealing with police. <br /><br />The reality of life is that there is institutional racism that drives police to want to have encounters with me regardless of what I've done. Most of my friends are average folks. We own businesses. We are college graduates. We have families. All of us have stories about being harassed by the police. Not all police are bad and I've had positive experiences as well, but the fact that a police officer can shoot and kill anyone of my friends and get off bothers me. <br /><br />If you're a thug and you commit crimes then the justice system should deal with you. I do not believe that it's okay to shoot and kill someone because you think that they are a criminal.Shay Olivarriahttp://www.BiggerThanYourBlock.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4232545803038458978.post-40884506371468414162010-07-12T08:19:08.678-07:002010-07-12T08:19:08.678-07:00You want the TRUTH..... Black people must (1) Inte...You want the TRUTH..... Black people must (1) Internalize Excellence (2) STOP MAKING EXCUSES and (3) Learn to "Give Back." If we start doing these things, I guarantee you we will stop being shot. Education must be taken seriously. Far too many of us do not connect our lack of education with our lack of making progress. Back to the root; Poor decision making. It's not about being a sinner or a saint; it is about having a sense of somebodiness. <br /><br />Just like everyone else, I am tire of seeing Black men killed senselessly, but the senselessness did not start with the firing of the gun by the officer. The senselessness started a long time ago causing the paths to cross. <br /><br />You want TRUTH.....stop doing things that will bring you in contact or connection with the Police. As I keep telling everyone, I highly recommend your reading The Pound Cake Speech by Bill Cosby (you can Google it), his book Come On People and the book by Juan Williams, ENOUGH. We have got to stop making excuses for these people and that includes the officers who are doing the shooting. Wrong is wrong, regardless of the color or the title.Marc A. Medleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13891538348892498227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4232545803038458978.post-27707010882595771742010-07-12T08:07:47.354-07:002010-07-12T08:07:47.354-07:00I am well aware that another Black man is dead, th...I am well aware that another Black man is dead, that is why I keep trying to get folks to stop making decisions that will place them in situtations to wind up dead. Over and over again we keep focusing on the wrong end. It’s TOO LATE to focus on the brother after he is dead. Why don’t we put the energy into keeping him alive. <br /><br />Responsibility and Accountability goes a long way in keeping folks from being in the circumstance of being shot unarmed or armed. No one is saying the officer was right, but what I am saying is the young man would not have been in the situation to be shot to begin with had he made better decisions. <br /><br />Why is that connection never made? We will keep having dead brothers if they keep making bad decisions. Until we are willing to deal with that, we will keep on hollering about justice. There was a time when a neighbor, or teacher, or minister or whoever could let a child know when they were doing wrong. In fact the parents encouraged folks to let them know when their children were doing wrong and they could not see them. Now many parents will curse you out when you tell them about something that their children did wrong. There was a time when the village really did raise the child. Now the village is scared to say anything because of the reaction of the child and their parents. Then when one of them gets killed, everyone wants the village to defend the bad choices. No sir, not me. The families have my sympathies in the loss of a loved one, but the support of the wrong decisions... No. That must stop if we are to be taken seriously. Otherwise, prepare yourself to keep having these same situations. <br /><br />I tell you what, the next time you see a young brother (or an old one for that matter) with his pants saggin', go up to him and suggest he pull his pants up......see what response you get. Let a parent know that you saw his/her child writing grafitti on someone's house and see what they say. Go let the parent know that their children curse worse than sailors and see what they say. Time is out for a bunch of excuses. These excuses are killing our brothers more than any white cop. In many instances we are our own worse enemies and it really is sickening. We must stop placing ourselves in circumstances that give white cops, black cops, purple cops, green cops or whatever color cops to have to encounter us.Marc A. Medleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13891538348892498227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4232545803038458978.post-64678879527003276202010-07-12T07:47:21.906-07:002010-07-12T07:47:21.906-07:00Shame shame shame... a young man is dead. It does ...Shame shame shame... a young man is dead. It does not have to be one extreme or the other. Can't we be critical thinkers that acknowledge the TRUTH. Clearly Grant was no saint, which is why he was restrained to begin with. However, the reality is that does not justify him being shot while unarmed, and everyone ought to be outraged. Truth is that it is not an individual problem but an ongoing systemic problem. Black men are 6% of the population, why are they the only ones being shot while unarmed? The numbers don't add up for it all to be an accident. <br />We have a large complex problem in the black community, and ALL of it needs to be addressed. We need to address and teach personal responsibility and also need to address systemic issues and social responsibility. Another black man is dead... and whether he was a saint or a sinner is irrelevant to me when it comes to demanding justice for our community who are disproportionately victims. And I know first hand that you can mind your business and do what is right and STILL deal with these issues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4232545803038458978.post-24570149649225206732010-07-12T06:57:53.901-07:002010-07-12T06:57:53.901-07:00Miss Marche is right on point and her words are an...Miss Marche is right on point and her words are an addedum to my entry. She is right, we will never be taken seriously as long as we keep attempting to defend wrong behavior. People are free to make whatever decisions they would like; however, this does not mean we are to defend wrong behavior when the wrong decisions are made. Make whatever decision you'd like, just don't expect me to defend it when you receive the bad consequences that came with your bad decisions. Our political and social capital is put at risk when we constantly defend the behavior that brought on the circumstances to begin with. I say again, we must trace the situation all the way back to the root.Marc A. Medleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13891538348892498227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4232545803038458978.post-4177537715205959062010-07-11T06:35:59.966-07:002010-07-11T06:35:59.966-07:00Your post is spot-on. Mirrors my sentiments exactl...Your post is spot-on. Mirrors my sentiments exactly.<br /><br />The other side of making martyrs out of criminals is that it lessens a community's credibility. So while black citizens have valid concerns about police brutality and abuse of authority, greivances using the examples of Oscar Grant and others with questionable histories are only met with contempt. People don't seem to understand that deifying criminals and thugs only chips away at a community's political and social capital. Why would authorities want to protect you when you glorify criminals and give them free reign? Why would governments and businesses invest in a community when there's no sense of decorum and accountability? <br /><br />People march and holler for the Jena Six, who were involved in fist-fights, for Michael Vick, who was knowingly involved in criminal activity, for Shaquanda Cotton, who assaulted a school worker, Heather Ellis, who got into a verbal altercation at a store, and now for Oscar Grant, who was put in handcuffs because he was involved in a fight at a public train station. And then they wonder why no progress is made.<br /><br />We need to understand that we can't aggress, assault and disrespect others with impunity. If anything, black people must understand that our actions are THAT MUCH MORE closely examined, and should act accordingly to build and maintain the political and social capital that we need to have our issues taken seriously.Veronica Marchéhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02570588442876580077noreply@blogger.com